Sensemaking with Wolé and Tobi

Sensemaking (formerly titled 'The Yellow Pill') is a podcast where Wolé and Tobi navigate life, work, technology, and culture with thoughtful conversation, personal clarity, and modern insight, one honest episode at a time.
Sensemaking (formerly titled 'The Yellow Pill') is a podcast where Wolé and Tobi navigate life, work, technology, and culture with thoughtful conversation, personal clarity, and modern insight, one honest episode at a time.
Episodes
Episodes
Monday Dec 12, 2022
Bonus: Behind My Preference for A Tiny Wedding
Monday Dec 12, 2022
Monday Dec 12, 2022
In this bonus episode, Tobi is back again with another one of his monologues. This one sees him reflect on being a groomsman at a friend's wedding a weekend ago, and his newfound understanding of why he thinks he's always leaned towards having a small wedding ceremony. He also dives into the symbolism, rituals and pageantry of a wedding.
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Monday Nov 28, 2022
Bonus: Practical Love and a Framework
Monday Nov 28, 2022
Monday Nov 28, 2022
In this bonus episode, Tobi shares his thoughts about what he describes as "a gentle kind of practical and efficient love".
He also gives a quick overview of the areas to seek to know a person as highlighted by the Relationship Attachment Model (RAM) created by John Van Epp in his book "How To Avoid Falling in Love with a Jerk"
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Monday Nov 21, 2022
Bonus: What I Do For a Living
Monday Nov 21, 2022
Monday Nov 21, 2022
In this bonus episode, Tobi gives a bit of insight into what he does for a living.
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Monday Nov 14, 2022
Bonus: What The Yellow Pill Means: A Reminder
Monday Nov 14, 2022
Monday Nov 14, 2022
In this bonus episode, Wole breaks down the meaning behind the name of the podcast!
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Monday Nov 07, 2022
Bonus: Behind the Scenes of Anikulapo
Monday Nov 07, 2022
Monday Nov 07, 2022
In this bonus episode, Wole and Tobi have a chat with one of our mates from high school who was a part of the set design team for the Netflix original movie from Nollywood, Anikulapo.With a total of 8,730,000 global views, Anikulapo is presently ranked among the top 10 non-English language movies on NetflixGbadebo tells us about the experience of being on set, his decision to go to film school after graduating with a degree in Architecture, and his love for the arts.
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Monday Oct 31, 2022
Bonus: Life Lessons from an 80-Year-Old
Monday Oct 31, 2022
Monday Oct 31, 2022
In this bonus episode, Wole and Tobi walk through a list of life lessons given by an 80-year-old to discover which of those lessons resonate with them.
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Monday Oct 24, 2022
Bonus: Nigeria and the 2023 General Elections
Monday Oct 24, 2022
Monday Oct 24, 2022
In this bonus episode, Wole and Tobi have a conversation about one of the recent polls in Nigeria showing Mr Obi well ahead of the two other main candidates in the running for the country's highest seat of power. They cover:
Details about the source of the poll and how it was conducted
The representativeness of the population sampled and the size of the sample
The likelihood of a 3rd-force candidate canvassing enough votes to meet constitutional requirements
What a win for a 3rd-force might mean for Nigeria's democracy
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Monday Oct 17, 2022
Bonus: Wole Answers Your Anonymous Questions
Monday Oct 17, 2022
Monday Oct 17, 2022
In this bonus episode, Wole answers anonymous questions sent in by our audience!
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Monday Oct 10, 2022
Bonus: Me and Times of War
Monday Oct 10, 2022
Monday Oct 10, 2022
In this bonus episode, Wole and Tobi have a conversation about the war in Ukraine, the narratives surrounding the war, and what ultimately shapes our perspectives of similar world events both at home and abroad.
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Monday Oct 03, 2022
Bonus: Black Mermaids and Fan-baiting
Monday Oct 03, 2022
Monday Oct 03, 2022
In this bonus episode, Wole and Tobi have a conversation about the reactions to the casting for the Little Mermaid by Disney, and the broader issue of fan-baiting - a form of marketing mostly used by producers and film studios, with the intent of exciting artificial controversy, garnering publicity and potentially explaining away the negative reviews of a new and often highly anticipated production.
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Monday Sep 26, 2022
Bonus: ”How to Mourn: The Queen Edition”
Monday Sep 26, 2022
Monday Sep 26, 2022
In this bonus episode, Wole and Tobi have a conversation about the passing of Queen Elizabeth II and the different reactions to her death across the world.
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Monday Sep 19, 2022
Looking Back on Season 8
Monday Sep 19, 2022
Monday Sep 19, 2022
10 episodes, 8 amazing guests and over 20 hours of thoughtful conversations.
In this bonus off-season episode, we sat down to reflect on the 8th season of the Yellow Pill podcast 💛
Thank you for hanging with us throughout the season and don't forget to share your favourite episodes with a friend!
See you around ✨
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Monday Sep 12, 2022
S8E10 - Confronting Financial Anxiety
Monday Sep 12, 2022
Monday Sep 12, 2022
Let’s not even lie, things are currently peak moneywise.
The reality of rising prices, economic downturns, and recessions are all terrible stressors that can have a negative impact on our well-being and livelihood.
As if that’s not enough, the news constantly bombards us with unstable economic conditions, and this can create negative emotions of anxiety and stress.
Even though difficult economic times affect everyone one way or another, young adults are more likely to be hit worse than older adults. Many of us are having to work our way up financially against many odds, some harder than others.
And so in our final episode of the season, we were joined by @xoreni, host of the @dontgobroketrying podcast, to break down how we can manage financial stress and anxiety that follows during tough times.
Together, we explored how we can better navigate the difficult economic times ahead. And Reni shared some practical financial tips on how we can prepare for recessions and economic downturns in general.
We enjoyed every second of the chat with Reni and our conversation ended up being a perfect blend of entertaining and educational.
Reni’s a top guest and she has some quality content we know you folks would love as well, so please check out her page and podcast using any of the links below ✨
Enjoy the listen!
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Resources
Follow Reni's podcast on Instagram: @dontgobroketrying
Follow Reni on Instagram: @xoreni
Disclaimer: The views and opinions shared on this episode are for informational and educational purposes only. This is NOT financial advice. Always do your own research and due diligence before investing.
Monday Sep 05, 2022
S8E9 - Sliding vs Deciding
Monday Sep 05, 2022
Monday Sep 05, 2022
Love, education, career, religion, & friendship.
These five areas are strong pillars that have shaped many of us and shaped who we are becoming. In fact, many of us believe that winning to some degree in these five categories is what makes a good, successful, or happy life.
Looking beneath the surface, however, presents us with the question of how decisions about matters relating to those different categories are made. To what extent do we fall into (slide) or actively choose (decide) what we studied in school, the careers we've chosen, the relationships we've pursued, and the faith we practise?
Although "sliding vs deciding" is a term primarily associated with cohabitation, we took this concept of sliding or deciding further into key areas of our lives in this episode. To what extent are we deciding what’s best and to what extent are we sliding our way forwards?
Given that we’re approaching the end of what typically marks “youth”, it’s the best time to reflect on both the decisions and indecisions that made us who we are today.
Enjoy the listen!
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Additional resources
The Attachment Theory
Our episode on attachment styles (Season 3 Episode 4 - Apple || Spotify)
Monday Aug 29, 2022
S8E8 - The Road to Artistry
Monday Aug 29, 2022
Monday Aug 29, 2022
We all know that person who wanted to be some kind of artist when they were younger.
They had a strongly held belief that they could meaningfully participate in artistry as their life’s mission.
However, as all young creatives with ambitions will ultimately realise, time, in the end, reveals whose path to artistry is destined, and whose inner drive for artistic ingenuity cannot be denied.
But in this ‘time’, where young creatives pursue their ambitions to become emerging artists, they at some point must face the paradox of education, negotiate an identity after education, flirt with the idea of a corporate career alternative, convince loved ones of the worthiness of their ambitions, and battle the all too common imposter syndrome.
This fact makes the road to artistry a daunting one for every emerging artist.
So on this episode of the Yellow Pill Podcast, we explored this daunting and precarious road with a buddy of ours, David a.k.a Davecreates.
London-born and Essex-raised, Davecreates is a creative with eclectic taste and versatile expression. His music has been featured on notable platforms including BBC 1Xtra, No Signal and Rapzilla.
We explored David's journey into making music, his identity, balancing the creative tension between artistic aspiration and economic pressures, love & relationships, personal stressors & mental health, and finally the release of his new album Amor 🔥 (LISTEN TO THE ALBUM)Enjoy the episode!.
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Monday Aug 22, 2022
S8E7 - The Canadian Japa
Monday Aug 22, 2022
Monday Aug 22, 2022
Our podcast is no stranger to the exploration of pre- and post-migration life stories. A while ago, we touched on this with a friend that migrated to Germany.
On this episode, however, we turned our attention to a #migration destination that’s very common among us Nigerians, that is Canada.
The common view that we often get of immigration to countries like Canada is as a comparison of two fixed points: the harsh and undesirable point pre-migration, and the joyful and successful post-migration one.
Often forgotten and neglected in social media ‘japa’ feeds, and perhaps immigrant success stories too, is the phase of transition, integration, and acculturation, if at all they even occur.
For someone moving to a new country like Canada, we can imagine this transition phase is anything but brief and trivial; it can even be so hard that in some cases, people return to their home countries.
Based on these, we were joined by another friend, Olamide(@lammykate), to have an exploration of the Canadian migration experience.
We have to note that we certainly don’t think all migration stories can be generalised to everyone, but each story is worth listening to nonetheless. Enjoy the listen!
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p.s.You can listen to Olamide's latest single, "Love over me" using the link here 🎧✨
Monday Aug 15, 2022
S8E6 - Cohabitation
Monday Aug 15, 2022
Monday Aug 15, 2022
Cohabitation is a practice on the rise, particularly in the western world.
It has become so prevalent that the majority of marriages and remarriages now begin as cohabiting relationships, and many young men and women are likely to have cohabited at some point in their lives.
As you might imagine, cohabitation is not without its wicked problems.
First, it does not help that in the eyes of the law, cohabitation is not the legal equivalent of marriage or common-law marriage and this tends to have some overlooked implications for the relationship.
Second, people around the world have different views on cohabitation, depending on their background, culture, or religion.
Also, the thought process of cohabitation is an interesting dilemma for many young adults, especially since research shows the ‘sliding vs deciding’ position toward cohabitation can have many effects on the relationship down the line.
Now, given our Nigerian roots, we definitely acknowledge the western influence on this topic.
But there is some evidence that the practical norm of cohabitation is seeping into sub-Saharan Africa despite the continent's religious leanings.
And so we thought this was a wicked problem worth discussing.
Massive shout-out to Bunmi(@akintola.eth) for making this an episode one to remember!
Enjoy the listen!
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Monday Aug 08, 2022
S8E5 - Happily Single?
Monday Aug 08, 2022
Monday Aug 08, 2022
Once upon a time, we had little autonomy in our ability to pick potential partners or follow romantic interests, with the regulation of this ability laying in the hands of parents, politics, economics, and handshakes.
Fast forward to a couple of decades, and the current norm is that most of us have autonomy in finding romantic interests. Yay🙂.
Because of this autonomy, some individuals choose a single life and prefer such a lifestyle. At the same time, for real or imagined reasons, others wish for a partner but are unable to find one that suits them.
This creates the binary phenomenon where singlehood exists voluntarily or involuntarily.
What @abiolaayanleye and @deolamako helped us do in this episode was to uncover and remind us about the existence of a multifaceted view of singlehood ✨
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Monday Aug 01, 2022
S8E4 - The Peter Pan Syndrome
Monday Aug 01, 2022
Monday Aug 01, 2022
Have you met this person? He’s a man based on his age but a child based on his actions.
The man wants your affection, but the child wants your sympathy; the man hopes to be close to you, but the child is scared to be touched.Heck, his body grows, but his mind does not. He's at a peak physically, but his mind is immature. He is a man-child and suffers from the Peter Pan syndrome (the magical boy who never grew into adulthood).Many of you might have met a man-child. He could be your friend, lover, husband, cousin, brother, uncle or colleague. He could also be your ex. And if you are a man reading this, he could be you. He could be us.Whether or not you know of such a man, and whether or not you may be that man, we think identifying traits of immaturity early in its tracks is still essential for everyone.So this episode was about opening up to share some simple paths toward maturity, and sincerely evaluate ourselves in terms of how close to or far away we are from the “peter-pan syndrome”.It is an episode relevant to everyone, whether for wives/lovers to better understand their partner, for friends to find empathy and more willingly offer support and for victims of immaturity to ponder on the situation and find the courage to escape "neverland".
Enjoy the listen and remember to share it with one person!
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Monday Jul 25, 2022
S8E3 - A Gaze into Islam
Monday Jul 25, 2022
Monday Jul 25, 2022
This episode arose out of our continuous desire to explore different systems of belief, and this time around, the focus for us was on Islam.
We felt this conversation was important as many of us live in societies comprised of diverse religious landscapes, of which Islam is a key part. Looking at the facts, as of 2015, Islam was said to be the fastest-growing religion in the world and projected to be the world’s dominant religion by 2070.
With that in mind, it can't really be debated that gazing into the world of Islam is key to coexisting harmoniously with our Muslim brethren and understanding the people behind this religious identity.
To help us with this gaze, we invited an old friend, @yettyb_ who is a practising Muslim.
Now, a couple of disclaimers.
We (Wolé and Tobi) are both Christians and grew up in Christian homes, and if you've followed this podcast for a minute, you can be sure that we did not arrange for this “conversation” with the ulterior motive of highlighting any perceived ‘deficiencies’ of a religion different from ours. Neither did we point the conversation towards a hint of evaluating the two religions against each other. That, for us, is what we would call intellectual child's play.
What was important was highlighting the core themes that characterised the spiritual systems relating to Christianity and Islam.
In doing so, we touched on how a person's Islamic identity may be developed and on the pillars of Islam. Also, given that we exist in interfaith societies, we discussed how we manage relationships despite the boundaries of our religions, common stereotypes of Islam, and how religion shapes our self-presentation online.
Enjoy the listen!
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